Robyn Fleming ([info]revena) wrote in [info]writers_orgasm,
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Sex Against a Wall

Darling members of Writer’s ORGASM,
I am pleased to bring you the first in what I hope will be a long and fruitful series of discussions of the feasibility of various positions. Today, I am asking you to discuss that favorite of dungeon-dwellers, sex against a wall.

Sex standing up (or being held up?), leaning against a wall, seems to be a major staple of erotic fiction, and it certainly has a lot of fantasy potential. What I’d like to discuss today, however, is the real-life feasibility of this position, and how it can be managed by persons who are not, in fact, professional weight-lifters. This is in line with the central tenet of Writer’s ORGASM – real sex is sexy! While there is certainly a place in erotic fiction for glossy, effortless sex, I personally would rather read the realistic stuff.

Now, perhaps it’s just because of my predilection for tall, geeky, not-particularly-athletic men, but I’ve never been able to get sex standing up un-supported to work in real life. The only times I’ve managed anything similar have been when there was a counter nearby of a convenient height to rest some of my weight on – and frankly, it just wasn’t as good as the more conventional lying-down method (though it does have the allure of a new location, that’s for sure).

In any case, I have –never- been able to manage anything pinned up against a wall and supported by my partner alone. Now, I’m not an unusually heavy woman (150 pounds, last check), and my partners have not been utter weaklings. I have come to suspect that, for most people, sex against the wall (and –only- the wall) may simply be infeasible.

And yet, I see it in erotic fiction, especially fanfic, -all the time-. Sometimes, the challenges are acknowledged and cleverly dealt with. I’ve seen HG/SS in the potterverse, for example, which utilized levitation charms to good effect. I’ve also seen the odd story in which the persons so engaged are evidently of a compatible enough height that both of them can keep their feet on the ground throughout, and are merely using the wall for a little bit of extra support. I find this a bit suspect in heterosexual sex scenes, though. We are a mildly sexually dimorphic species, when it comes to height, and the average woman’s groin is several inches below the average man’s, so I suspect that something that convenient really ought to be a rarity to be remarked upon.

But, what I want to know is, what do –you- all know about it? How can sex standing up against a wall be realistically portrayed? I can note, from my own experience, that a handy countertop can help… What else works? High heels? A footstool? If you personally know of something that works (by which I mean that you yourself have done it, or know someone reliable who has), please do chime in and share your information. Tell us what works, what doesn’t, and whether or not it’s even worth all the effort.

I hope to see a lot of realistically portrayed standing-up sex in the near future! ;-)
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[info]shiv5468

March 31 2005, 18:44:33 UTC 7 years ago

I have fond memories of the fic in which someone was both doing it up against a dungeon wall and sucking on the nipples of the person with the back to the wall. That seemed to me to be a manouevre worthy of a contortionist.

The standard method of accommodating the shorter person is to pick them up and wrap their legs around the waist of the taller person, so that the supporting partner doesn't have to take all the weight on their arms.

[info]revena

March 31 2005, 18:52:35 UTC 7 years ago

Wow, that -does- sound like an interesting scene...

I understand the legs wrapped around the taller person thing on an intellectual level... But does that actually -work- for anyone? Never has for me.

[info]bambooanime

March 31 2005, 20:22:33 UTC 7 years ago

They did it in the movie 8 Mile. *shrug*

[info]race_carrigan

March 31 2005, 21:49:45 UTC 7 years ago

Yes, but Brittany Murphy weighs about 10 pounds. :-P

[info]bambooanime

March 31 2005, 22:26:53 UTC 7 years ago

Too true.

[info]revena

March 31 2005, 23:02:46 UTC 7 years ago

Also, movie-sex isn't any more reliable than fanfic-sex, really.

That said, I'm pretty sure -I- could hold Brittany Murphy up with no trouble... She's pretty thin. ;-)

Anonymous

April 1 2005, 09:51:47 UTC 7 years ago

I've done it

Honestly, I have. Legs around waist/hips that is. (Don't have a working account at the moment unfortunately, I know anonymous people aren't that reliable :-) ).

Anyway, it's possible, for a 145 pound woman, if you and your partner are relatively strong people. This does not mean I recommend it. I was mostly worried about what painful things would happen to him if I couldn't hold on.

[info]revena

April 1 2005, 10:26:20 UTC 7 years ago

Re: I've done it

Don't have a working account at the moment unfortunately, I know anonymous people aren't that reliable :-)
I trust you. ;-)

Hm... it's beginning to seem that the general consensus around here is that there -are- ways to manage it, but that it's pretty much not worth the effort...

[info]lesbiem

March 31 2005, 20:49:05 UTC 7 years ago

Well, sometimes you can do it standing on one leg, but usually your legs get all jello-ey when you have an orgasm. Especially if you are in the shower, and then you might break a hip. Sex is way more awkward this way then they let on.

[info]race_carrigan

March 31 2005, 21:56:40 UTC 7 years ago

My only idea is maybe in a closet or narrow hallway or other place where the person being penetrated could brace his or her back against one wall and feet against the opposite wall. Though that'd probably get very tiring, very fast.

[info]revena

March 31 2005, 23:06:38 UTC 7 years ago

Hm... That's an intriguing idea.

If I had a closet, I'd go out and do some "field research," see if it works... Any volunteers to try that one at home? It's for -science-!

[info]originalrahrah

March 31 2005, 22:13:11 UTC 7 years ago

up against the wall.

robyn, you raise such interesting points. i'm 5'2 and my husband is 6' tall. not up against a wall, not in the shower - that's not how i want to die! the kitchen counter or even the bathroom vanity is a possibility.
p.s. i'm skipping back to your 'first times' discussion. very interesting.

[info]karenhealey

March 31 2005, 22:24:50 UTC 7 years ago

It's *possible* to do it face to face, but not for everyone, and it gets exhausting quick. I've had some success with sort of a standing up doggy-style pressed against a wall (I hate this term. Can we invent a better term for woman-on-hands-and-knees, man-behind?) especially when wearing heels to correct the height difference.

Heels - sexy to look at, helpful during sex!

[info]lesbiem

April 4 2005, 02:45:36 UTC 7 years ago

How about marmoset style????

[info]re_white

March 31 2005, 22:51:01 UTC 7 years ago

Like others have said above, it is possible with one leg supporting you and the other hooked tight around your partner (he’s got to help hold it up there) but holy shit is it awkward, and tense and almost always over before it begins. Strained leg muscles and bruised thigh aside, it’s hard to keep from toppling like a Jinga tower once orgasm starts to loom. So it’s possible, but hardly worth the effort.

[info]bbcaddict

April 1 2005, 03:40:16 UTC 7 years ago

if the smaller person gets on a box or a stair then yes, it's worked for me... or in the case of last summer a fantastically positioned stair with landing.
but yeah- one would really need to be a weightlifter or suffer sore everything in the process of getting one or two good strokes in!

[info]gimini_chick_in

April 1 2005, 06:39:21 UTC 7 years ago

I've had oral sex up against a wall. A painting fell on us and glass went everywhere.

[info]revena

April 1 2005, 10:27:19 UTC 7 years ago

That sounds like one of those memories that are always good for a chuckle...

[info]exhibitme

August 23 2005, 19:42:50 UTC 6 years ago

I have to admit that I have face-to-face sex standing up fairly regularly. We generally don't do leaning against the wall, but me hooking one leg over his hip and standing on tiptoe with the other foot works well. Both of my feet on the floor just makes me feel unbalanced. We also do the thing where he picks me up and I wrap my legs around him and hang on while he thrusts, but only one of us is standing up at that point...

For reference, I'm 5'4" and 130 lbs and he is 5'10"ish and 185 lbs.
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